New refinery not needed now - ACEP tells Prez

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SBD 8 years ago

It seems they guys cannot think and are desperate to try their hands at anything to win votes.

It seems they guys cannot think and are desperate to try their hands at anything to win votes.
Your Friend 8 years ago

I thought the president said it is a vision of his. After TOR can produce 60 barrels. Wouldn't there be upgrades and other related deficiencies be fixed during this progress? Ghana people are always ready to shoot down anythi ...
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I thought the president said it is a vision of his. After TOR can produce 60 barrels. Wouldn't there be upgrades and other related deficiencies be fixed during this progress? Ghana people are always ready to shoot down anything that does not meet their interest. Is Mr Ackah managing anything in TOR. They always stand outside and shout and when put in position...follow the the order of the day. Please allow All Ghanaians to envision what will make the country better. It's never a crime to have a vision. It's a crime when it's implemented wrongly
Awuku Womafunu 8 years ago

I think you envyPrez Mahama for his
vision. I am sure your father was one of those who opposed Dr Nkrumah when he planned to build Tema Harbour, Motorway, Trade Fair, etc.Do you understand what you said?

I think you envyPrez Mahama for his
vision. I am sure your father was one of those who opposed Dr Nkrumah when he planned to build Tema Harbour, Motorway, Trade Fair, etc.Do you understand what you said?
WIZ 8 years ago

The so called UP party criticized Nkrumah on every major development project undertaken. Job six hundred, the silos, etc were not completed because of these myopic thinkers. Nkrumah was 50 years ahead of them in time. The sa ...
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The so called UP party criticized Nkrumah on every major development project undertaken. Job six hundred, the silos, etc were not completed because of these myopic thinkers. Nkrumah was 50 years ahead of them in time. The same blood runs through this NPP guys vain. Please ignore them and move this Ghana foward.
Marquis 8 years ago

eh President said a new refinery is to be built at the premises of TOR to increase its capacity to 100,000 as against the 45,000 it does today. For TOR to be real efficient it requires a tripling of its current capacity even ...
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eh President said a new refinery is to be built at the premises of TOR to increase its capacity to 100,000 as against the 45,000 it does today. For TOR to be real efficient it requires a tripling of its current capacity even beyond the 100,000 the President said. Anything short of that will never make TOR efficient. Dont throw dust into our eyes. When it gets to that level then it can compete and control more than 70% of the market and compete with the OMC's
Ewuise Brown 8 years ago

I think that the idea to build a new refinery sounds great, but i feel that it will be proper to build this proposed refinery not in Tema but in either western, central or volta relgions. This I believe will open up the count ...
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I think that the idea to build a new refinery sounds great, but i feel that it will be proper to build this proposed refinery not in Tema but in either western, central or volta relgions. This I believe will open up the country and also provide jobs for youth in these parts of the country.
Marquis 8 years ago

My dear Ewusie the capacity o TOR is small and requires upgrade to about 150,000. So adding to the structure in the short term is the best. Otherise it must be shut down as it is too small to be efficient. Then a new and also ...
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My dear Ewusie the capacity o TOR is small and requires upgrade to about 150,000. So adding to the structure in the short term is the best. Otherise it must be shut down as it is too small to be efficient. Then a new and also bigger refinery can be sited in Takoradi or along the coast anywhere
ddkt 8 years ago

we can't manage the white elephant and we are eager to build new stuff. wat makes u think the new refinery will not be another white elephant

we can't manage the white elephant and we are eager to build new stuff. wat makes u think the new refinery will not be another white elephant
They Say They Say 8 years ago

Why put all your eggs in one basket? Accra/Tema is getting choked and out of hand. After all isn't the oil coming from the western region? Think about the pipe laying from the west to Tema and its vulnerabilities.

Why put all your eggs in one basket? Accra/Tema is getting choked and out of hand. After all isn't the oil coming from the western region? Think about the pipe laying from the west to Tema and its vulnerabilities.
Bbb 8 years ago

Mahama is a liar,just ignore this pathetic liar.

Mahama is a liar,just ignore this pathetic liar.
Kofi Thompson. 8 years ago

Surely, the more refined petroleum products Ghana can produce, for sale locally, and for export to the ECOWAS market, the better off will our country be - as it will enable us cut down on the importation of such refined produ ...
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Surely, the more refined petroleum products Ghana can produce, for sale locally, and for export to the ECOWAS market, the better off will our country be - as it will enable us cut down on the importation of such refined products, and help us improve our balance of payments position too?

It makes sense to turn Ghana into West Africa's oil refining centre.

Any move to refine our share of the oil that Ghana produces makes perfect sense - and there is no such thing as the right time to do so either. ACEP's position is most unfortunate.
Omanbapa 8 years ago

Mr Acka you got it all wrong and for that matter what the president suggested was in good faith and good for the general public.

Therefore for you to come out to say is needless is totally bad.Ghana is growing and we can d ...
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Mr Acka you got it all wrong and for that matter what the president suggested was in good faith and good for the general public.

Therefore for you to come out to say is needless is totally bad.Ghana is growing and we can do things in the old fashion way all the time and expect the same results.

Why don't you suggest to the president to stop building hospitals and schools because we've more that can accommodate us. We need visionary leaders like Mr Mahama. I suggest you go back to the drawing board.
Mr Bond 8 years ago

Did you actually believe this Mahama nonsense that he will built another refinery near TOR.He was only bragging.He has never ever said that to Ghanaians but foreigners who don't care a shit about our country that sham confine ...
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Did you actually believe this Mahama nonsense that he will built another refinery near TOR.He was only bragging.He has never ever said that to Ghanaians but foreigners who don't care a shit about our country that sham confine the statement to.even common 6.5 Ghana cedis to revive Juapong textiles the president told them to reasonable and can he built built?it is election time to deceive the people with project and sod cutting and abandon later.
Haile Selaise Mengistus III 8 years ago

ACEP has always pose itself as the KING SOLOMON when it comes to energy matters.
Its membership is a junk of loud mouth arm chair critics and have no vision than their myopic interest.
TOR needs to expand it capacity to ref ...
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ACEP has always pose itself as the KING SOLOMON when it comes to energy matters.
Its membership is a junk of loud mouth arm chair critics and have no vision than their myopic interest.
TOR needs to expand it capacity to refine more crude oil than the present capacity it has. Expanding that capacity should only mean building additional infrastructure to supplement the current one.
This is quite different from building a new refinery.
Haile Selaise Mengistus III is a fool 8 years ago

But you paa are you correct? Did you read the news item before posting your comment?You just insulted ACEP but every word of your comment is in support of what ACEP has said. President Mahama wants to build a new refinery. AC ...
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But you paa are you correct? Did you read the news item before posting your comment?You just insulted ACEP but every word of your comment is in support of what ACEP has said. President Mahama wants to build a new refinery. ACEP says 'don't build a new one. Make TOR more efficient and expand it". But you, MR WISE MAN just supported ACEP's position and insulted the organisation on top. You are not correct. Think before you open your big mouth, you loud-mouthed, arm chair critic. You shot yourself in the foot. lol
Komla 8 years ago

It look like Acep was too quick to raise a point whiles there is no reason to do that.

In their own statement they talk about expansion - so expansion at where, different location or same yard (So where lies the deference ...
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It look like Acep was too quick to raise a point whiles there is no reason to do that.

In their own statement they talk about expansion - so expansion at where, different location or same yard (So where lies the deference from what the president said) The President was talking about future plan in his second term God willing and not these year I believe. Please ACEP avoid being too political in your analysis
Korby 8 years ago

Mahama is like Dr. Kwame Nkrumah. He thinks ahead of his generation. Please go home with your little brains. Ghana's President Mahama is a visionary leader. The man is talking about petroleum hub for West Africa into 100 year ...
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Mahama is like Dr. Kwame Nkrumah. He thinks ahead of his generation. Please go home with your little brains. Ghana's President Mahama is a visionary leader. The man is talking about petroleum hub for West Africa into 100 years and you are talking about 92, 95% of TOR capacity. Nonsense!
KWAMENA 8 years ago

You are not forward looking the President is on his feat thinking like Nkrumah. Sorry people like you should not be on the air waves.

You are not forward looking the President is on his feat thinking like Nkrumah. Sorry people like you should not be on the air waves.
Isaac Amanor 8 years ago

The current MD, Kwame Awuah Darko is a good man. Since he took over things seem to be good. But I remember he said TOR is currently operating at 35% capacity.. and is even recording profit. That's good. Ets invest in maximizi ...
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The current MD, Kwame Awuah Darko is a good man. Since he took over things seem to be good. But I remember he said TOR is currently operating at 35% capacity.. and is even recording profit. That's good. Ets invest in maximizing TOR's current operation capacity
peace 8 years ago

dr. did you listened to the president before commenting.

dr. did you listened to the president before commenting.
NPP KWASEAFUO PARTY. NPP JIMIFUO KUO 8 years ago

This is a misplaced priority and clearly points to the notion of the Create-Loot-Share that some Ghanaians have about the NDC government.

I thought plans are underway to build a petroleum refinery in Takoradi in the wester ...
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This is a misplaced priority and clearly points to the notion of the Create-Loot-Share that some Ghanaians have about the NDC government.

I thought plans are underway to build a petroleum refinery in Takoradi in the western region? (citifmonline.com/2014/08/05/ghana-to-get-new-us600m-oil-refinery/)

Why do we need another petroleum refinery in Tema? What is the rational for this? We already have a refinery that we cannot even manage. There are times that we cannot even get crude oil to refine at TOR so why build another one to sit there like a white-elephant?

This doesn't make a single economic sense and I want my NDC government to convince me about the rational and economics that necessitated this agenda. Am not the least connived on this one.

Building another petroleum refinery in Tema is like building another hydroelectric dam in Akosombo, where we already have a hydroelectric dam that lacks sufficient water to run on at full capacity.

It would have made sense if TOR is producing above its present install-capacity, then we can justify why we need another refinery to take the pressure off the facility and expand production to meet market demands. To the contrary, TOR sometimes don't even have crude oil to refine and we forced to import already refined petroleum products. So where is the justification for another refinery?

If you have no petrol to put into your car tank, what then is the justification for buying another car that runs on petrol?

What we need is either retrofit TOR (something that I think has already been done) or make it more operationally efficient. TOR's problem is more of a managerial issue than of a technical deficiency.

If we truly need another refinery, it should definitely not be sited in Tema, it must be in our newly discovered oil hub in the western region but with a caveat. Which option is more economical? Must the location of the refinery be close to the source of (access to) the raw material to fed the plant or it must be close to the market/customer (biggest market, by population and demand)? The cost dynamics must determine where we site the refinery, that is if we really need another one.
NPP KWASEAFUO PARTY. NPP JIMIFUO KUO 8 years ago

"Am not the least CONVINCED on this one".

"Am not the least CONVINCED on this one".
modinsane 8 years ago

If TOR has more land space and builds a refinery on it is not an expansion!

If TOR has more land space and builds a refinery on it is not an expansion!
NPP KWASEAFUO PARTY. NPP JIMIFUO KUO 8 years ago

From what the president said, we need another refinery in addition to the one that is already there.

What ACEP is arguing for is that the present refinery can be made to be more efficient without Ghana building another on ...
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From what the president said, we need another refinery in addition to the one that is already there.

What ACEP is arguing for is that the present refinery can be made to be more efficient without Ghana building another one. In essence, ACEP is saying the government of Ghana doesn't need to own 2 refineries, which I agree to.

If we need a refinery, let that be taken up by the private sector. They can build and run it far more efficiently than a government-run business.
Emmanuel 8 years ago

Who will run the private sector owned refinery? Is it not same people? What we need is a disciplined work force accross board (both public and private). As for Acep I don't see the difference in what the are saying and what t ...
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Who will run the private sector owned refinery? Is it not same people? What we need is a disciplined work force accross board (both public and private). As for Acep I don't see the difference in what the are saying and what the president said.
T)wudi3 8 years ago

Its really not about adding up but rather sustaining it.

Its really not about adding up but rather sustaining it.
T)wudi3 8 years ago

Its all about sustainance. There should be a clear guideline to sustain them which can be backed by law.

Its all about sustainance. There should be a clear guideline to sustain them which can be backed by law.

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