People must learn how to talk and respect others. There is no one on this earth who thinks he is always right.The loud mouth people who loose their guts will now learn from what the so called Sir JOHN has gone through.The who ... read full comment
People must learn how to talk and respect others. There is no one on this earth who thinks he is always right.The loud mouth people who loose their guts will now learn from what the so called Sir JOHN has gone through.The whole world has seen him on television and it is a shame to his family,party and Ghana such people
cannot be good leaders to represent their communities or people.A man who says he is a lawyer and yet does not know about what constitute a contempt is a shame
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Abeiku Sagoe 12 years ago
When you close from work stressed out, please don't rush into the traffic. Your situation gets worse with the economic drain through your wastage of fuel, the psychological pressure and stress and medical threat. On every Wed ... read full comment
When you close from work stressed out, please don't rush into the traffic. Your situation gets worse with the economic drain through your wastage of fuel, the psychological pressure and stress and medical threat. On every Wednesday and Thursday at 6pm, starting from 11th September there will always be a drama performance. Spend a few hours there to relive the stress. So, why stress out in traffic when you should de-stress at the theatre. The programme starts with Abeiku Sagoe's 'In Daddy's Closet'.
moyo 12 years ago
Atta Kyei also went to the Supreme Court to quote Shakespeare and his client, Kuranchies was thrown into jail. Atta Kyei should learn from good lawyers and stop reading literature books
Atta Kyei also went to the Supreme Court to quote Shakespeare and his client, Kuranchies was thrown into jail. Atta Kyei should learn from good lawyers and stop reading literature books
Kwadwo Lagos 12 years ago
Do you seriously believe the Ghanaian Justice System deserve our respect. I am a firm believer in the old adage; "RESPECT IS EARNED NOT DEMANDED" As someone whose 14yr old Cousin was put in police custudy until my Uncle could ... read full comment
Do you seriously believe the Ghanaian Justice System deserve our respect. I am a firm believer in the old adage; "RESPECT IS EARNED NOT DEMANDED" As someone whose 14yr old Cousin was put in police custudy until my Uncle could raise money to pay the police.All this over a playing ground scuffle between two boys of the same age, and despite the fact that there was no injury to either of them. Firstly he was held in contravention of Clause4 of Article15 of the Constitution by being held in the same cell as adults and the fact that his parents were not informed and he was questioned without the presence of his parents or a responsible adult, as prescrbed.I can tell you, for a fact, that the Ghana Justice system is nothing short of a sham,and injustice is a daily occurance in Ghana and the perpetrators are the very same institutions formed to ensure Justice is free for all and not just for those who can aford to pay the bribes. I'm sorry but I do not hold the Ghanaian Justice System in high esteem.
Kofi Panyin 12 years ago
Atuguba does not have the temperament to be on the Supreme court....what is all this shouting for.?
Atuguba does not have the temperament to be on the Supreme court....what is all this shouting for.?
WARD GDX - WE THE PEOPLE 12 years ago
Waa look oh.
So Supreme Court worth its name and mandate will be engaging in this senseless theatrics of judicial administration.
Waa look oh.
So Supreme Court worth its name and mandate will be engaging in this senseless theatrics of judicial administration.
BOY KUMASI 12 years ago
Ayikoi Otoo must not boast about something he didn't do just to say that the verdict was already there bcos the noble justices didn't want to put petrol into fire to gear up the already high tension in the country. The Suprem ... read full comment
Ayikoi Otoo must not boast about something he didn't do just to say that the verdict was already there bcos the noble justices didn't want to put petrol into fire to gear up the already high tension in the country. The Supreme Court yesterday was a stage and no two ways about that .
AKOTO OSEI 12 years ago
GHc 5,000.00 equivalent to 6 month jail sentence. Your wife and kids at home will be sad with u for talking too much and paying for something u have not eaten Sir John.
GHc 5,000.00 equivalent to 6 month jail sentence. Your wife and kids at home will be sad with u for talking too much and paying for something u have not eaten Sir John.
Fo. Kwaku - Tanyingbe 12 years ago
HE WAS FINED AND AVOIDED JAIL SENTENCE. FOUND GUILTY OF COMTEMPT
HE WAS FINED AND AVOIDED JAIL SENTENCE. FOUND GUILTY OF COMTEMPT
BOY KUMASI 12 years ago
The guy was found guilty, paid a fine then signed a bond for six months to show good conduct therefore i don't understand why the NPP supporters have to jubilate over this. Illiteracy is a disease indeed !
The guy was found guilty, paid a fine then signed a bond for six months to show good conduct therefore i don't understand why the NPP supporters have to jubilate over this. Illiteracy is a disease indeed !
SGT ANANI FIADZOE 12 years ago
Dramani Mahama failure to win the election and still through corruption
act, to claim he has won the election
is a criminal offence and should be charged for High Treason together with
Asiedu-Nketia and evil Afari Djan.
Dramani Mahama failure to win the election and still through corruption
act, to claim he has won the election
is a criminal offence and should be charged for High Treason together with
Asiedu-Nketia and evil Afari Djan.
ROGUE LAWYER 12 years ago
if all the oyiko otoo, said in defending the contemnors in an open court was the reasons why sir John & Adorye escaped jail sentence, then it creates the favouritism contention -that the whom you know System in the Country ... read full comment
if all the oyiko otoo, said in defending the contemnors in an open court was the reasons why sir John & Adorye escaped jail sentence, then it creates the favouritism contention -that the whom you know System in the Country is at it best in the highest court of the land.
how can you release somebody who is guilty of his offends to the deffend attorney as a birthday gift? are we not joking and creating a Scenario whereby any Senior lawyer who know the People at the bench gotting away with impunity ?
I was truely impressed about the concerned of the panel-especially the Passion at which justice Atuguba spoke to help clean the political dirt Society in the Country which is irritating our Young growing Democracy but i was not impressed about the fine of Adorye and his cuttuing spreer, as for sir John a lawyer who suposed to know better -5,000 cedis was a lightweight guilty fine.
Kofi Adjaho Mahama 12 years ago
Please check your grammar, sentence construction, and spellings before you make a post
Please check your grammar, sentence construction, and spellings before you make a post
Ali 12 years ago
You think English Language be Joke? Brofo ye duru wai!!!
You think English Language be Joke? Brofo ye duru wai!!!
OPEN MINDED SAINT 12 years ago
I HAVE WATCHED JOY NEWS FILE IN LONDON SKY TV QND FROM DAY ONE I KNEW THE WAY THIS LAWYER TALK MEANS WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE AT HOME ESPECIALLY WHEN HE SAID IF NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE HIMSELF, OBEDIENT ASAMOAH, AKUF ... read full comment
I HAVE WATCHED JOY NEWS FILE IN LONDON SKY TV QND FROM DAY ONE I KNEW THE WAY THIS LAWYER TALK MEANS WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE AT HOME ESPECIALLY WHEN HE SAID IF NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE HIMSELF, OBEDIENT ASAMOAH, AKUFFO ADDO, ETC ARE ALL THERE TO HELP MEANING HE IS A TEAM OALYER AND ANY TEAM PLAYER IS GOOD IN WHATEVER HE OR SHE IS DOING HENCE SIR JOHN AND ADORYEY FREE BY HIS KNOWLEDGE
Kofi Adjaho Mahama 12 years ago
This article fails to give glory to the role played by Divine intervention.The Almighty God showed that He indeed, is a prayer answering God. He listened to the many fasting and prayers and supplications from NPP members acro ... read full comment
This article fails to give glory to the role played by Divine intervention.The Almighty God showed that He indeed, is a prayer answering God. He listened to the many fasting and prayers and supplications from NPP members across the country. This just phase one. The second phase will be on the judgement day. The Lord still has the hearts of the judges in His hands. At the end of the day it is his counsel that will prevail. It will not be by might of incumbency, or by obscene use of power and intimidation by a drunkard, but by the Spirit of God, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. We thank you Oh, Lord for the first victory.
mamuna t totobisa 12 years ago
In the USA, Virginia to be precise, there's a DIVINE PRAYERLINE MINISTRY OR DIVINE PRAYERLINE WORD MINISTRY, headed by Bishop Dr Kofi Adonteng-Boateng, whiose ministry is popularly known as "AMEN OOOOOOOO". I love this minist ... read full comment
In the USA, Virginia to be precise, there's a DIVINE PRAYERLINE MINISTRY OR DIVINE PRAYERLINE WORD MINISTRY, headed by Bishop Dr Kofi Adonteng-Boateng, whiose ministry is popularly known as "AMEN OOOOOOOO". I love this ministry which is full of Holy-Ghost ordained, power-packed miracles. May be the Bishop was consulted by Sir John and his sympathisers. It's good they ve found the way to God's heart (if they did consult him). AMEN OOOOH
Court Witness 12 years ago
Lawyer Ayikoi in fact saved Atuguba from shame. After the concert in court, Atuguba could not sentence the contemnors to jail, nor could he totally absolve them. To appease everybody, the panel of judges decided on omposing t ... read full comment
Lawyer Ayikoi in fact saved Atuguba from shame. After the concert in court, Atuguba could not sentence the contemnors to jail, nor could he totally absolve them. To appease everybody, the panel of judges decided on omposing the fines, knowing very well that the two contemnors will not have to pay the fines from their own pockets. For that matter, they themselves will not suffer directly for the crime they were supposed to have committed.
Shame unto Atuguba. We understand Atuguba is referring the Young Patriots to the Peace Council because they, too, have written to the panel of judges to bring to their attention statements that have been made by four other person's which could be considered as contemptuous. We will remember how Sir John's case was first mentioned at court: Atuguba reported that it had come to the notice of the judges that one Sir John had made some statements which could be intepreted as contemptuous, so they were going to investigate it and take the necessary action. This presupposes that the court did not hear the comments directly but from reports from several sources including the media.
What stops the same court from investigating the rumours in the same media and elsewhere that some four persons have also made supposedly contemptuous comments, but rather refer the case to the Peace Council? Is the Peace Council an arm of government or of the courts?
Shame unti Atuguba. We never knew he was such a good orator, considering how hesitant he has always been when contibuting to issues during the court proceedings. Atuguba's performance confirms all too well what our ancestors have said all along: that whenever someone is telling a lie, it shows in his presentation - coughings and distractions, unnecessary pauses and all. That is exactly what Atuguba has been doing all along, until those two days when he had had to give judgement on two NPP strong men. Then come and listen to Brofo and eloquence!
We are all watching. Justice must reign! God save Ghana!!
Mugu yaro 12 years ago
Npp is a great party with a lot of great pple.may God bless Ghana,nana addo and the npp
Npp is a great party with a lot of great pple.may God bless Ghana,nana addo and the npp
John Defoe 12 years ago
Whatever way it is intepreted, Owusu Afriyie is now a hard cone ex-convict.For as far as he 3was fpound guilty and punished, he is an ex-convict.It will live with him for the rest of his villge bush life.The next on line who ... read full comment
Whatever way it is intepreted, Owusu Afriyie is now a hard cone ex-convict.For as far as he 3was fpound guilty and punished, he is an ex-convict.It will live with him for the rest of his villge bush life.The next on line who woudl definitelt served jail terms will be the castrated bull, Kofi Jumah.I don´t know why he has gone to hidding.I thpught he is a man with two castrated balls in between his legs.I dare him to open his cow like smelling mouth! Primitive species! Sub-human beings.It is only in such tribal party that you they can exist.Fools!
Kofi Adjaho Mahama 12 years ago
Just a reminder. TSatsu is a hard-wired ex-convict who served time at Nsawam. Stop making any noise about Sir John. He did not steal any money. Tsatsu did.
Just a reminder. TSatsu is a hard-wired ex-convict who served time at Nsawam. Stop making any noise about Sir John. He did not steal any money. Tsatsu did.
MELCOM 12 years ago
JUSTICE DOTSEI IS TRYING TO TEACH POLITICIANS THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE NATION TO DEVELOP TO WHERE DELOPED NATIONS ARE NOW.I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO OPEN THE RADIO OR LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS COMING FROM POLITICIANS AND NOTHING IS B ... read full comment
JUSTICE DOTSEI IS TRYING TO TEACH POLITICIANS THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE NATION TO DEVELOP TO WHERE DELOPED NATIONS ARE NOW.I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO OPEN THE RADIO OR LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS COMING FROM POLITICIANS AND NOTHING IS BEING MENTIONED OF THE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS AND THE SUFFERING AN AVERAGE GHANAIAN IS GOING THROUGH AND HOW IT WILL BE SOLVED BUT JUST RUBBISH. IF WE WANT TO DEVELOP THEN WE SHOULD STOP CHEAP POLITICS AND TRYING TO PLEASE CLOSED MINDED CITIZENS AND BEGIN TO TACKLE THE ISSUES THAT ARE SWALLOWING US UP ON DAILY BASIS.OTHER PEOPLE WITH THE CALIBA OF JUSTICE DOTSEI SHOULD USE THEIR PLATFORMS TO TEACH IN THIS DIRECTION.HOPEFULLY GHANAIANS BOTH POLITICIANS AND THE ELECTORATE WILL BEGING TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND GOVERNANCE AND POLITICS IN THE LIGHT OF DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INDIVIDUAL GHANAIAN CITIZEN.
AKWA 12 years ago
the evil man do live to follow them.
NPP must confers their aim of taken GHANA to hipc prematurely.
the evil man do live to follow them.
NPP must confers their aim of taken GHANA to hipc prematurely.
Oko Mensah 12 years ago
I don´t give a fucking damm about what this buulu called Ayikoi did or did not do for that bush donkey.I am a bit dissapoited that this man did not go to jail. All the same, one important thing is very clear- The pepeni who ... read full comment
I don´t give a fucking damm about what this buulu called Ayikoi did or did not do for that bush donkey.I am a bit dissapoited that this man did not go to jail. All the same, one important thing is very clear- The pepeni who he and his thugs have no respect has seriously humilliated this bush donkey. He is now an ex-convict and forever shall he remained.I dare the others too to make same statements agaisnt the court if they are men!Yes, the pepeni has useless this stupid villager who talks before he thinks.And he said he is a lawyer! Doing everything possible to throw this peaceful country into chaos. Who the hell is he? A useless ugly looking animal like him! If his wee smoker, Akufo Addo is not in foooool suport of his bush behaviour,why did´t he stop him for all this time.No wonder, he himself has called for the killing of other tribes indirectly.Swines!
Kwame Aboagye 12 years ago
I have nothing against Ayikoi Otoo but the penchant for NPP praise singers to make heroes of their members in any given situation is annoying. Sammy Awuku was freed when he apologized and got some lawyers to apologise for him ... read full comment
I have nothing against Ayikoi Otoo but the penchant for NPP praise singers to make heroes of their members in any given situation is annoying. Sammy Awuku was freed when he apologized and got some lawyers to apologise for him. Atubiga apologized on his own behalf and got his sentence mitigated so what is special about Ayikoi Otoo apologizing but still getting his clients convicted. The Judges said themselves that they took the tension in the country into consideration in pronouncing judgment, so what is this hullabaloo about Ayikoi being so great? Why are we so easily lowering bars in this country?
Nyorkopio 12 years ago
This beats a situation in our country's history where bandits and murderers were hired to pick up judges with contentious opinions, kill and burn them (Their busts are in front of Ghana's High Court - Martyrs of the Rule of ... read full comment
This beats a situation in our country's history where bandits and murderers were hired to pick up judges with contentious opinions, kill and burn them (Their busts are in front of Ghana's High Court - Martyrs of the Rule of Law). Ghana has come a long way indeed. The real importance of these legal battles, is the fact that, they display Ghana's growing political maturity and the strengthening of The Rule of Law in our Society. Well done to both the defendants and the plaintiffs.
ABU 12 years ago
The offenders must consider themselves lucky becaused in happened in a country where nothing is treated with seriousness,a joker country,if not how can a counsel for offenders apply jokes to free his clients from punishment? ... read full comment
The offenders must consider themselves lucky becaused in happened in a country where nothing is treated with seriousness,a joker country,if not how can a counsel for offenders apply jokes to free his clients from punishment?.I personally won't call Otoo a hero or man of the moment after joking in court to ridiculise our justice system.Is this the conduct of a former attorney general and minister of justice?,no wonder the nation facing tonnes of judgement debts waiting to be paid.These elements representing us to negotiate and appendix signatures to our contracts made us always losers against foreign governments and companies.
ken. 12 years ago
Ayikoi Otoo our (saviour)
Ayikoi Otoo our (saviour)
KWESI-GHANA 12 years ago
AS OBEDIENT CHILDREN,NOT FASHIONING YOURSELVES ACCORDING TO THE FORMER LUSTS IN YOUR IGNORANCE
We are described as having OBEYED God`s Word of Truth from the heart so our blessings,our inheritance in Christ,aren`t preconditi ... read full comment
AS OBEDIENT CHILDREN,NOT FASHIONING YOURSELVES ACCORDING TO THE FORMER LUSTS IN YOUR IGNORANCE
We are described as having OBEYED God`s Word of Truth from the heart so our blessings,our inheritance in Christ,aren`t preconditioned on obedience,rather they are our birthright
The Word of the Lord remains forever
1 Peter 13-25
People must learn how to talk and respect others. There is no one on this earth who thinks he is always right.The loud mouth people who loose their guts will now learn from what the so called Sir JOHN has gone through.The who ...
read full comment
Watch every show or NEWS LIVE FROM GHANA ON TV3, TV AFRICA, GTV, ADOM TV AND
OVER 7500 TV - RADIO CHANNELS FREE ONLINE AT WWW.OFMTV.COM
every show or NEWS LIVE FROM GHANA ON TV3, TV AFRICA, GTV, ADOM TV AND
OVER 7500 TV - RADIO CHANNELS FREE ONLINE AT WWW.OFMTV.COM
show or NEWS LIVE FROM GHANA ON TV3, TV AFRICA, GTV, ADOM TV AND
OVER 7500 TV - RADIO CHANNELS FREE ONLINE AT WWW.OFMTV.COM
When you close from work stressed out, please don't rush into the traffic. Your situation gets worse with the economic drain through your wastage of fuel, the psychological pressure and stress and medical threat. On every Wed ...
read full comment
Atta Kyei also went to the Supreme Court to quote Shakespeare and his client, Kuranchies was thrown into jail. Atta Kyei should learn from good lawyers and stop reading literature books
Do you seriously believe the Ghanaian Justice System deserve our respect. I am a firm believer in the old adage; "RESPECT IS EARNED NOT DEMANDED" As someone whose 14yr old Cousin was put in police custudy until my Uncle could ...
read full comment
Atuguba does not have the temperament to be on the Supreme court....what is all this shouting for.?
Waa look oh.
So Supreme Court worth its name and mandate will be engaging in this senseless theatrics of judicial administration.
Ayikoi Otoo must not boast about something he didn't do just to say that the verdict was already there bcos the noble justices didn't want to put petrol into fire to gear up the already high tension in the country. The Suprem ...
read full comment
GHc 5,000.00 equivalent to 6 month jail sentence. Your wife and kids at home will be sad with u for talking too much and paying for something u have not eaten Sir John.
HE WAS FINED AND AVOIDED JAIL SENTENCE. FOUND GUILTY OF COMTEMPT
The guy was found guilty, paid a fine then signed a bond for six months to show good conduct therefore i don't understand why the NPP supporters have to jubilate over this. Illiteracy is a disease indeed !
Dramani Mahama failure to win the election and still through corruption
act, to claim he has won the election
is a criminal offence and should be charged for High Treason together with
Asiedu-Nketia and evil Afari Djan.
if all the oyiko otoo, said in defending the contemnors in an open court was the reasons why sir John & Adorye escaped jail sentence, then it creates the favouritism contention -that the whom you know System in the Country ...
read full comment
Please check your grammar, sentence construction, and spellings before you make a post
You think English Language be Joke? Brofo ye duru wai!!!
I HAVE WATCHED JOY NEWS FILE IN LONDON SKY TV QND FROM DAY ONE I KNEW THE WAY THIS LAWYER TALK MEANS WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE AT HOME ESPECIALLY WHEN HE SAID IF NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE HIMSELF, OBEDIENT ASAMOAH, AKUF ...
read full comment
This article fails to give glory to the role played by Divine intervention.The Almighty God showed that He indeed, is a prayer answering God. He listened to the many fasting and prayers and supplications from NPP members acro ...
read full comment
In the USA, Virginia to be precise, there's a DIVINE PRAYERLINE MINISTRY OR DIVINE PRAYERLINE WORD MINISTRY, headed by Bishop Dr Kofi Adonteng-Boateng, whiose ministry is popularly known as "AMEN OOOOOOOO". I love this minist ...
read full comment
Lawyer Ayikoi in fact saved Atuguba from shame. After the concert in court, Atuguba could not sentence the contemnors to jail, nor could he totally absolve them. To appease everybody, the panel of judges decided on omposing t ...
read full comment
Npp is a great party with a lot of great pple.may God bless Ghana,nana addo and the npp
Whatever way it is intepreted, Owusu Afriyie is now a hard cone ex-convict.For as far as he 3was fpound guilty and punished, he is an ex-convict.It will live with him for the rest of his villge bush life.The next on line who ...
read full comment
Just a reminder. TSatsu is a hard-wired ex-convict who served time at Nsawam. Stop making any noise about Sir John. He did not steal any money. Tsatsu did.
JUSTICE DOTSEI IS TRYING TO TEACH POLITICIANS THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE NATION TO DEVELOP TO WHERE DELOPED NATIONS ARE NOW.I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO OPEN THE RADIO OR LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS COMING FROM POLITICIANS AND NOTHING IS B ...
read full comment
the evil man do live to follow them.
NPP must confers their aim of taken GHANA to hipc prematurely.
I don´t give a fucking damm about what this buulu called Ayikoi did or did not do for that bush donkey.I am a bit dissapoited that this man did not go to jail. All the same, one important thing is very clear- The pepeni who ...
read full comment
I have nothing against Ayikoi Otoo but the penchant for NPP praise singers to make heroes of their members in any given situation is annoying. Sammy Awuku was freed when he apologized and got some lawyers to apologise for him ...
read full comment
This beats a situation in our country's history where bandits and murderers were hired to pick up judges with contentious opinions, kill and burn them (Their busts are in front of Ghana's High Court - Martyrs of the Rule of ...
read full comment
The offenders must consider themselves lucky becaused in happened in a country where nothing is treated with seriousness,a joker country,if not how can a counsel for offenders apply jokes to free his clients from punishment? ...
read full comment
Ayikoi Otoo our (saviour)
AS OBEDIENT CHILDREN,NOT FASHIONING YOURSELVES ACCORDING TO THE FORMER LUSTS IN YOUR IGNORANCE
We are described as having OBEYED God`s Word of Truth from the heart so our blessings,our inheritance in Christ,aren`t preconditi ...
read full comment