What about DUMSOR? NPP knew that DUMSOR was not the fault of NDC President Mahama. It was as a result of the bad energy policies of successive governments from Kotoka, Busia, Acheampong, Akuffo, Rawlings, Kuffour etc etc who ... read full comment
What about DUMSOR? NPP knew that DUMSOR was not the fault of NDC President Mahama. It was as a result of the bad energy policies of successive governments from Kotoka, Busia, Acheampong, Akuffo, Rawlings, Kuffour etc etc who neglected the energy needs of Ghana whilst the Ghana population increased three to five fold. Did the NPP AKYEM Abuakwa CRIMINALS Akuffo Addo not quickly blamed NDC President Mahama
prophet mohammed was a sick dog 2 months ago
Say no to islam and convert to a real religion.
Allah is satanic scum and qur'an is toilet paper..........Search online for ways to move away from evil islam. You can join ex-muslim groups online and be safe............. ... read full comment
Say no to islam and convert to a real religion.
Allah is satanic scum and qur'an is toilet paper..........Search online for ways to move away from evil islam. You can join ex-muslim groups online and be safe...............you are not alone.
DotCom 2 months ago
The judiciary was untouched during Rawlings time because they were not openly biased. Torkornoo has been openly biased so much so that she became a risk to our democracy. Judges are also human beings who have emotions. They l ... read full comment
The judiciary was untouched during Rawlings time because they were not openly biased. Torkornoo has been openly biased so much so that she became a risk to our democracy. Judges are also human beings who have emotions. They like a party or not but we want to see them put politics aside and make fair judgements. I have never been in favour of removing judges but Torkornoo’s judgement would have resulted in violence at some point had she stayed on. Good riddance.
Efo Juju 2 months ago
It is wrong to say the judiciary was never touched by Rawlings. It was during the time of Rawlings that people in high echelons of government abducted and murdered judges.
It is wrong to say the judiciary was never touched by Rawlings. It was during the time of Rawlings that people in high echelons of government abducted and murdered judges.
Saul 2 months ago
The ndc has been able to articulate properly to win court cases Thereby blaming their inability to perform well in the law courts to judges saying most of the judges were appointed by npp govt. which is false. Georgina wood ... read full comment
The ndc has been able to articulate properly to win court cases Thereby blaming their inability to perform well in the law courts to judges saying most of the judges were appointed by npp govt. which is false. Georgina wood was appointed by ndc by npp govt under nana Addo worked with her until she retired. Amidu was Ndc yet pres. Nana Addo made him Osp. Ndc is just confused.
Kofi Adu 2 months ago
Who said the judiciary was untouched during Rawlings?? Did he not murder them?
Who said the judiciary was untouched during Rawlings?? Did he not murder them?
Maxwell 2 months ago
If anything at all, it should be a neutral civil society group that should protest if the judiciary has been wrongly touched. The fact that a political party, I mean an opposition political party who brought this Torkono woma ... read full comment
If anything at all, it should be a neutral civil society group that should protest if the judiciary has been wrongly touched. The fact that a political party, I mean an opposition political party who brought this Torkono woman are lamenting uncontrollably should tell you that they have lost a big political asset. This same woman was in an unnecessary banter with the speaker of parliament and you were in support of it. Parliament can be touched by the judiciary but the judiciary is untouchable abi? Mahama has really proven that everybody including himself can be held accountable for how we handle affairs in this country. This is good precedence for mother Ghana. Now the judiciary will ensure that there are no major faults else the same pattern will be repeated. Not even chief justice is above the law.
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Teddy more 2 months ago
There's nothing you can do. And is up to the president to appoint appropriate person who can do the job. And he has done it. Slamming the president about the appointment of chief justice is against the law, and you could ... read full comment
There's nothing you can do. And is up to the president to appoint appropriate person who can do the job. And he has done it. Slamming the president about the appointment of chief justice is against the law, and you could be arrested. Nothing you can do
Raymond 2 months ago
This foolish boy again? That's what happens when you are purposeless. He should keep 'slamming'.
This foolish boy again? That's what happens when you are purposeless. He should keep 'slamming'.
Esther 2 months ago
But who is this idiot called Salam Mustapha at all in this Ghana? Who even knows this fool?. A group of useless rats have of late arrogated to themselves a cloud of self aggrandisement and Don Quixotic type of importance. Suc ... read full comment
But who is this idiot called Salam Mustapha at all in this Ghana? Who even knows this fool?. A group of useless rats have of late arrogated to themselves a cloud of self aggrandisement and Don Quixotic type of importance. Such idiots think their opinions and submissions on media panel discussions are binding on the rest of us citizens. They describe themselves as analysts, experts, lecturers, tink thanks and the like. They don't even realize how stupid and annoying they look when desperately heckling hosts of such panel shows to be allowed to talk.. useless fools.They should clear off.
Kofi Sam 2 months ago
My Dearest Esther you've said it all.Fools die in want of wisdom.
My Dearest Esther you've said it all.Fools die in want of wisdom.
Stone 2 months ago
He is crying because their referee has been sacked, and now they fear they will loose matches at the courts.
He is crying because their referee has been sacked, and now they fear they will loose matches at the courts.
Haooo 2 months ago
Lol... Empty Salam... Trying so hard to be relevant so he can retain his position. .. u guys go dey opposition keep waaaaa
Lol... Empty Salam... Trying so hard to be relevant so he can retain his position. .. u guys go dey opposition keep waaaaa
Agboglimate Wolefiatem Zuborborm 2 months ago
Why npp is crying blood over the removal of chief justice. I think she did her dubious things with npp
Why npp is crying blood over the removal of chief justice. I think she did her dubious things with npp
Thief of Staff - Akosua Frema 2 months ago
What does that ugly, useless, senseless, shameless, gormless, lawless, stupid, corrupt, foolish, deceitful, ignorant, divisive, arrogant and primitive fool know about the Judiciary? Kwasiaa buuluubuuluuu.
What does that ugly, useless, senseless, shameless, gormless, lawless, stupid, corrupt, foolish, deceitful, ignorant, divisive, arrogant and primitive fool know about the Judiciary? Kwasiaa buuluubuuluuu.
Atta 2 months ago
What wrong with these NPP guys at all. Gertrude Torkornoo herself is not challenging her removal as CJ. She is only challenging her removal as a Supreme Court judge.
So why shouldn't Ghana get a new CJ? Or is the positio ... read full comment
What wrong with these NPP guys at all. Gertrude Torkornoo herself is not challenging her removal as CJ. She is only challenging her removal as a Supreme Court judge.
So why shouldn't Ghana get a new CJ? Or is the position Torkornoo family property?
Snyder 2 months ago
Clueless, visionless and incompetent Mahama is an idiot of incomprehensible magnitude
Clueless, visionless and incompetent Mahama is an idiot of incomprehensible magnitude
Ruben 2 months ago
You are burning inside and it's sweet. Your foolish MATEMEHO criminal gang has deceived you that GHANA is for you village shoeshines. Now you'll see your level. Fool, burn.
You are burning inside and it's sweet. Your foolish MATEMEHO criminal gang has deceived you that GHANA is for you village shoeshines. Now you'll see your level. Fool, burn.
BB 2 months ago
Why give space to such unintelligent and dishonest person who appears not to even understand what his role is in the NPP. You can disagree by making intelligent and persuasive argument that is anchored on the law, then we all ... read full comment
Why give space to such unintelligent and dishonest person who appears not to even understand what his role is in the NPP. You can disagree by making intelligent and persuasive argument that is anchored on the law, then we all can learn from it. Just speaking for the sake of it is just baffling. When he speaks I doubt if any floating voter youth is inspired. Tweaaaaaa....
Obrempong 2 months ago
It looks as if President Mahama is not ruling
Ghana with ethics but rather following his
Own bellicose actions. He is leading Ghana
to the Dark Age whereby modern laws were not
Enacted but the primitive traditional rules ... read full comment
It looks as if President Mahama is not ruling
Ghana with ethics but rather following his
Own bellicose actions. He is leading Ghana
to the Dark Age whereby modern laws were not
Enacted but the primitive traditional rules and
Laws. President Mahama wants to go for those
Outmoded and the primittive system. Ghana
must be ware . Those future generations with
minute handouts , encouraging the wrongfulness
to stay and doom the country. Ghana’s future
Looks Dim.
Kwame 2 months ago
@Obrempong, it appears only you and your like see Ghana as heading into dark doom. How come Ghanaians voted massively and gave the NDC a 2/3 majority in Parliament if they had no hope for Ghana. It's taken just 8 months under ... read full comment
@Obrempong, it appears only you and your like see Ghana as heading into dark doom. How come Ghanaians voted massively and gave the NDC a 2/3 majority in Parliament if they had no hope for Ghana. It's taken just 8 months under JM to turn the darkness that engulfed the country under Nana Addo and Bawumialiar to bright light. If you have nothing proper to say, just shut up.
Opanyinbon 2 months ago
Idiot! Go kill yourself! Removing CJ is dark day in Ghana's judicial history, then how about the removal of EC by your clueless former president Akufo Addo? Hypocrite!
Idiot! Go kill yourself! Removing CJ is dark day in Ghana's judicial history, then how about the removal of EC by your clueless former president Akufo Addo? Hypocrite!
Anna 2 months ago
New protest party again?
New protest party again?
OSAFO KANTANKA 2 months ago
Young man, just Go TOP yourself or set fires to the sea if you don’t like JUSTICE BAFFOE-BONNIE’s nomination as Chief Justice.
Young man, just Go TOP yourself or set fires to the sea if you don’t like JUSTICE BAFFOE-BONNIE’s nomination as Chief Justice.
Populist 2 months ago
What does this baby and novice knows?
What does this baby and novice knows?
Gh 2 months ago
Npp people are mad, u create trouble and sit down to cry when the trouble is bitting u..
Npp people are mad, u create trouble and sit down to cry when the trouble is bitting u..
Selinko 2 months ago
Good morning if I may asked with all due respect apart from the President of Ghana who has the right to appoint the Chief Justice of Ghana this is a question I am asking I need an answer thanks
Good morning if I may asked with all due respect apart from the President of Ghana who has the right to appoint the Chief Justice of Ghana this is a question I am asking I need an answer thanks
Obroniba 2 months ago
This stray pig is mentally disorganized and really a complete idiot with no manners and dignity. He talks from his anus and always glorify raw foolishness and gross stupidity. They shall remain where they are till 3098. Idiot ... read full comment
This stray pig is mentally disorganized and really a complete idiot with no manners and dignity. He talks from his anus and always glorify raw foolishness and gross stupidity. They shall remain where they are till 3098. Idiots who ruled us with their foolishness and gross mismanagement and stupidity
Achakanapaya 2 months ago
Npp is just a shameless, hypocrites, murderers, thieves and lair's organization.
Where was this Salam when Akuffo Addo and Sophia Akuffo Addo removed Charlotte Osie for the EC with same constitution provision??? Nation wreck ... read full comment
Npp is just a shameless, hypocrites, murderers, thieves and lair's organization.
Where was this Salam when Akuffo Addo and Sophia Akuffo Addo removed Charlotte Osie for the EC with same constitution provision??? Nation wreckers organization never again Allah.
Kofi Sam 2 months ago
Mustapha, so you are also counted among "the men" in NPP? So sad.Had it not been Ghanaian-type of politics I wonder where you would have been? Pls let me ask, can you read between lines?In all aspects of life you don't and ca ... read full comment
Mustapha, so you are also counted among "the men" in NPP? So sad.Had it not been Ghanaian-type of politics I wonder where you would have been? Pls let me ask, can you read between lines?In all aspects of life you don't and can NEVER come near Justice Baffoe Bonnie or President Mahama, it's the simplest truth.People like you. May the Lord have mercy on you
the Villager 2 months ago
He is fighting to be reelected as NPP youth organiser.
This boy was insulting President Mills.
ORAL will come for him
He is fighting to be reelected as NPP youth organiser.
This boy was insulting President Mills.
ORAL will come for him
Kafui 2 months ago
Another coward telling how nonsense he is...
Another coward telling how nonsense he is...
Nana K 2 months ago
The wicked are entrapped by the words of their mouth. Something is hanging over Salam Mustapha head.
The wicked are entrapped by the words of their mouth. Something is hanging over Salam Mustapha head.
Dread 2 months ago
You can slam a million times nothing will change. The law is the law.
You can slam a million times nothing will change. The law is the law.
Lucky 2 months ago
Folks, is Mustapha normal. I guess he’s on Tramadol
Folks, is Mustapha normal. I guess he’s on Tramadol
Solomon don't waste time. Send the petition immediately 2 months ago
This stupid lizard eater needs serious spanking or be grilled in Abronye's Black Maria
This stupid lizard eater needs serious spanking or be grilled in Abronye's Black Maria
Stone 2 months ago
Your government was the to ever sack a chairperson of Ghana's Electoral Commission. So now it is 1-1 draw. Why are you now crying?
Your government was the to ever sack a chairperson of Ghana's Electoral Commission. So now it is 1-1 draw. Why are you now crying?
Analyst 2 months ago
Rather Salam Mustapha and all politicians must come to terms with the real lessons that must be learnt in the sacking of Gertrude Torkornoo as CJ.
The first lesson is that, a CJ must know that he/she is not there to do the b ... read full comment
Rather Salam Mustapha and all politicians must come to terms with the real lessons that must be learnt in the sacking of Gertrude Torkornoo as CJ.
The first lesson is that, a CJ must know that he/she is not there to do the bidding of the president who appointed him/her to oppress the opposition. In that regard, it is a certainty that if the opposition comes to power, they will have no choice but to sack that CJ. This is because no government or president would be willing to work with a CJ they have no confidence in. It is therefore surprising that, Madam Torkornoo, after consistently oppressing the opposition NDC to please the NPP government, still wants to continue to be CJ under NDC regime.
The second lesson is that, it is a futile action for a president to bypass all the senior judges at the SC and appoint their juniors by far as CJ hoping that he/she can be in office for a long time to be able to do his party's bidding even if they are out of power.
Kwame K 2 months ago
This argument is dumb.The fact that Rawlings never changed the CJ under a Military regime does not mean a CJ can not be changed; especially if there is enough reason to do so. Gertrude Torkornoo allowed her political leaning ... read full comment
This argument is dumb.The fact that Rawlings never changed the CJ under a Military regime does not mean a CJ can not be changed; especially if there is enough reason to do so. Gertrude Torkornoo allowed her political leanings to influence most of her decisions as CJ and she knows deep within her heart where she stood on most issues, her dismissal was right on point.
Kojois 2 months ago
Let that dead goat destroy the country before he leaves office. Time will tell
Let that dead goat destroy the country before he leaves office. Time will tell
Myra 2 months ago
The one who chose someone at the 7th position to be placed over her seniors did not destroy Ghana.
The one who chose someone at the 7th position to be placed over her seniors did not destroy Ghana.
Constantinople 2 months ago
Are this Salam Mustapha fool and Bawumia not Muslims? They are silent on Gaza and Palestine. Haram hypocrites
Are this Salam Mustapha fool and Bawumia not Muslims? They are silent on Gaza and Palestine. Haram hypocrites
Kpakpo 2 months ago
But removing EC boss was second in history abi?
But removing EC boss was second in history abi?
Ujah 2 months ago
Dark day for the country n the judiciary? That should be good news after all we are dark people in Ghana.
See when u hear a thief crying n complain of bad happening as a result of theft, know that someone stole something va ... read full comment
Dark day for the country n the judiciary? That should be good news after all we are dark people in Ghana.
See when u hear a thief crying n complain of bad happening as a result of theft, know that someone stole something valuable from him.
Cat 2 months ago
U can advise your grandpa to lobby for the position of the CJ
U can advise your grandpa to lobby for the position of the CJ
KofSam 2 months ago
Fools will complain about almost everything.
Justice Baffoe is the most senior justice on the Supreme Court and should have been the one to be nominated as CJ by Akuffo Addo but was bypassed and Torkornoo was appointed to d ... read full comment
Fools will complain about almost everything.
Justice Baffoe is the most senior justice on the Supreme Court and should have been the one to be nominated as CJ by Akuffo Addo but was bypassed and Torkornoo was appointed to do the dirty bidding for him .
No one is indispensable in the country and the Torkornoo was fired after going through an established process. Justice Baffoe is the right person to succeed Torkornoo.
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Barko osae twum 2 months ago
Was charlotte osei's removal from office also not the first case in ghanas history. Where were you Mr long nose and Mouth. Why didnt you come out to tell showboy he acted against the constitution of the land. Please make u go ... read full comment
Was charlotte osei's removal from office also not the first case in ghanas history. Where were you Mr long nose and Mouth. Why didnt you come out to tell showboy he acted against the constitution of the land. Please make u go sleep.
ASEMPA 2 months ago
Salam should get it into his knuckle head that CJ is normally given to the most senior and Justice Baffoe-Bonney was far far senior to Torkornu but Akuffu Addo by passed him and nominated Justice Torkornu cuz of reasons best ... read full comment
Salam should get it into his knuckle head that CJ is normally given to the most senior and Justice Baffoe-Bonney was far far senior to Torkornu but Akuffu Addo by passed him and nominated Justice Torkornu cuz of reasons best known to the NPP so Salam should forever shut up.
Papa 2 months ago
Now you see where your wickedness and machinations have landed us ?
Now you see where your wickedness and machinations have landed us ?
ONLY Jesus saves.
This is the good news for all creation.
What about DUMSOR? NPP knew that DUMSOR was not the fault of NDC President Mahama. It was as a result of the bad energy policies of successive governments from Kotoka, Busia, Acheampong, Akuffo, Rawlings, Kuffour etc etc who ...
read full comment
Say no to islam and convert to a real religion.
Allah is satanic scum and qur'an is toilet paper..........Search online for ways to move away from evil islam. You can join ex-muslim groups online and be safe............. ...
read full comment
The judiciary was untouched during Rawlings time because they were not openly biased. Torkornoo has been openly biased so much so that she became a risk to our democracy. Judges are also human beings who have emotions. They l ...
read full comment
It is wrong to say the judiciary was never touched by Rawlings. It was during the time of Rawlings that people in high echelons of government abducted and murdered judges.
The ndc has been able to articulate properly to win court cases Thereby blaming their inability to perform well in the law courts to judges saying most of the judges were appointed by npp govt. which is false. Georgina wood ...
read full comment
Who said the judiciary was untouched during Rawlings?? Did he not murder them?
If anything at all, it should be a neutral civil society group that should protest if the judiciary has been wrongly touched. The fact that a political party, I mean an opposition political party who brought this Torkono woma ...
read full comment
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There's nothing you can do. And is up to the president to appoint appropriate person who can do the job. And he has done it. Slamming the president about the appointment of chief justice is against the law, and you could ...
read full comment
This foolish boy again? That's what happens when you are purposeless. He should keep 'slamming'.
But who is this idiot called Salam Mustapha at all in this Ghana? Who even knows this fool?. A group of useless rats have of late arrogated to themselves a cloud of self aggrandisement and Don Quixotic type of importance. Suc ...
read full comment
My Dearest Esther you've said it all.Fools die in want of wisdom.
He is crying because their referee has been sacked, and now they fear they will loose matches at the courts.
Lol... Empty Salam... Trying so hard to be relevant so he can retain his position. .. u guys go dey opposition keep waaaaa
Why npp is crying blood over the removal of chief justice. I think she did her dubious things with npp
What does that ugly, useless, senseless, shameless, gormless, lawless, stupid, corrupt, foolish, deceitful, ignorant, divisive, arrogant and primitive fool know about the Judiciary? Kwasiaa buuluubuuluuu.
What wrong with these NPP guys at all. Gertrude Torkornoo herself is not challenging her removal as CJ. She is only challenging her removal as a Supreme Court judge.
So why shouldn't Ghana get a new CJ? Or is the positio ...
read full comment
Clueless, visionless and incompetent Mahama is an idiot of incomprehensible magnitude
You are burning inside and it's sweet. Your foolish MATEMEHO criminal gang has deceived you that GHANA is for you village shoeshines. Now you'll see your level. Fool, burn.
Why give space to such unintelligent and dishonest person who appears not to even understand what his role is in the NPP. You can disagree by making intelligent and persuasive argument that is anchored on the law, then we all ...
read full comment
It looks as if President Mahama is not ruling
Ghana with ethics but rather following his
Own bellicose actions. He is leading Ghana
to the Dark Age whereby modern laws were not
Enacted but the primitive traditional rules ...
read full comment
@Obrempong, it appears only you and your like see Ghana as heading into dark doom. How come Ghanaians voted massively and gave the NDC a 2/3 majority in Parliament if they had no hope for Ghana. It's taken just 8 months under ...
read full comment
Idiot! Go kill yourself! Removing CJ is dark day in Ghana's judicial history, then how about the removal of EC by your clueless former president Akufo Addo? Hypocrite!
New protest party again?
Young man, just Go TOP yourself or set fires to the sea if you don’t like JUSTICE BAFFOE-BONNIE’s nomination as Chief Justice.
What does this baby and novice knows?
Npp people are mad, u create trouble and sit down to cry when the trouble is bitting u..
Good morning if I may asked with all due respect apart from the President of Ghana who has the right to appoint the Chief Justice of Ghana this is a question I am asking I need an answer thanks
This stray pig is mentally disorganized and really a complete idiot with no manners and dignity. He talks from his anus and always glorify raw foolishness and gross stupidity. They shall remain where they are till 3098. Idiot ...
read full comment
Npp is just a shameless, hypocrites, murderers, thieves and lair's organization.
Where was this Salam when Akuffo Addo and Sophia Akuffo Addo removed Charlotte Osie for the EC with same constitution provision??? Nation wreck ...
read full comment
Mustapha, so you are also counted among "the men" in NPP? So sad.Had it not been Ghanaian-type of politics I wonder where you would have been? Pls let me ask, can you read between lines?In all aspects of life you don't and ca ...
read full comment
He is fighting to be reelected as NPP youth organiser.
This boy was insulting President Mills.
ORAL will come for him
Another coward telling how nonsense he is...
The wicked are entrapped by the words of their mouth. Something is hanging over Salam Mustapha head.
You can slam a million times nothing will change. The law is the law.
Folks, is Mustapha normal. I guess he’s on Tramadol
This stupid lizard eater needs serious spanking or be grilled in Abronye's Black Maria
Your government was the to ever sack a chairperson of Ghana's Electoral Commission. So now it is 1-1 draw. Why are you now crying?
Rather Salam Mustapha and all politicians must come to terms with the real lessons that must be learnt in the sacking of Gertrude Torkornoo as CJ.
The first lesson is that, a CJ must know that he/she is not there to do the b ...
read full comment
This argument is dumb.The fact that Rawlings never changed the CJ under a Military regime does not mean a CJ can not be changed; especially if there is enough reason to do so. Gertrude Torkornoo allowed her political leaning ...
read full comment
Let that dead goat destroy the country before he leaves office. Time will tell
The one who chose someone at the 7th position to be placed over her seniors did not destroy Ghana.
Are this Salam Mustapha fool and Bawumia not Muslims? They are silent on Gaza and Palestine. Haram hypocrites
But removing EC boss was second in history abi?
Dark day for the country n the judiciary? That should be good news after all we are dark people in Ghana.
See when u hear a thief crying n complain of bad happening as a result of theft, know that someone stole something va ...
read full comment
U can advise your grandpa to lobby for the position of the CJ
Fools will complain about almost everything.
Justice Baffoe is the most senior justice on the Supreme Court and should have been the one to be nominated as CJ by Akuffo Addo but was bypassed and Torkornoo was appointed to d ...
read full comment
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Was charlotte osei's removal from office also not the first case in ghanas history. Where were you Mr long nose and Mouth. Why didnt you come out to tell showboy he acted against the constitution of the land. Please make u go ...
read full comment
Salam should get it into his knuckle head that CJ is normally given to the most senior and Justice Baffoe-Bonney was far far senior to Torkornu but Akuffu Addo by passed him and nominated Justice Torkornu cuz of reasons best ...
read full comment
Now you see where your wickedness and machinations have landed us ?