UNIVERSAL IS THE SAME AS CATHOLIC. TAKE OR LEAVE IT
UNIVERSAL IS THE SAME AS CATHOLIC. TAKE OR LEAVE IT
FRANKIE 1 year ago
Emperor Constantine did his bit at the Council of Nicaea on 325AD. King James and Co also did theirs subsequently. Now it's the turn of the Presbyterian church to add theirs. The show goes on. Continue steaming in this religi ... read full comment
Emperor Constantine did his bit at the Council of Nicaea on 325AD. King James and Co also did theirs subsequently. Now it's the turn of the Presbyterian church to add theirs. The show goes on. Continue steaming in this religious and cultural imperialism.
Ohene, Langley Virginia 1 year ago
You are very wise
You are very wise
KK 1 year ago
Presbyterian Church of Ghana, why not draft, prepare or write your own creed
Presbyterian Church of Ghana, why not draft, prepare or write your own creed
COD 1 year ago
Kobby; thanks for your observation.
The Presbyterians posit that The Roman Universal Church is not good doctrinally. However, The Presbyterian Church uses and celebrates many of the fake celebrations instituted by the Roman ... read full comment
Kobby; thanks for your observation.
The Presbyterians posit that The Roman Universal Church is not good doctrinally. However, The Presbyterian Church uses and celebrates many of the fake celebrations instituted by the Roman Catholic/Universal Church and many are still following the deceptions after these years.
For example, Birthday Day or Christmas and Easter celebrations among others.
Kwasi 1 year ago
The universal church is catholic, not Roman Catholic. Some members of the Presbyterian are not familiar with the usage of the word Catholic to refer to the universal church, so despite many explanations clarifications from th ... read full comment
The universal church is catholic, not Roman Catholic. Some members of the Presbyterian are not familiar with the usage of the word Catholic to refer to the universal church, so despite many explanations clarifications from the leadership of the church ,they've found it necessary to replace the word in order to remove the confusion it creates.
UNCLE PEE 1 year ago
All said and done, the creed was created by the Roman Catholic Church; take it or leave it. It's all part of the imperialist agenda because the Roman Empire was never conquered but gradually metamorphosed into the Roman Catho ... read full comment
All said and done, the creed was created by the Roman Catholic Church; take it or leave it. It's all part of the imperialist agenda because the Roman Empire was never conquered but gradually metamorphosed into the Roman Catholic Church through the Holy Roman Empire with all its religious and administrative structure. Words like cathedral, synod, cardinal, diocese, Easter etc were all imported wholesale into the Roman Church. The Presbyterian Church could therefore do itself a lot of good if it abandoned the creed, altogether. No IFs or BUTs.
Exposer 1 year ago
Oyiwa we are enjoying the end times ..........
Oyiwa we are enjoying the end times ..........
3dem 1 year ago
Very through And important. I've always wondered why non Catholic churches repeated that phrase... if skills be the THE HOLY CHURCH
Very through And important. I've always wondered why non Catholic churches repeated that phrase... if skills be the THE HOLY CHURCH
3dem 1 year ago
Very true
Very true
Martin Kreisler 1 year ago
Our belieF should be in the "CHURCH OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST", whose true congregants are found among various denominations.
Our belieF should be in the "CHURCH OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST", whose true congregants are found among various denominations.
joe borde3 1 year ago
Not all churches use the "Holy Catholic church" in the Apostles Creed. The Lutheran Church for instance use "The Holy Christian Church" whilst most churches use as earlier stated
Not all churches use the "Holy Catholic church" in the Apostles Creed. The Lutheran Church for instance use "The Holy Christian Church" whilst most churches use as earlier stated
Frank 1 year ago
The Church is ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC. The Presby Church should be humble to hold on to what has been proclaimed by APOSTLES for over 2000 years
The Church is ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC. The Presby Church should be humble to hold on to what has been proclaimed by APOSTLES for over 2000 years
Kwami 1 year ago
The apostles used the English word, catholic? They were not English speaking? Catholic = universal.
What about the Holy Christian Church?
The apostles used the English word, catholic? They were not English speaking? Catholic = universal.
What about the Holy Christian Church?
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Jake 1 year ago
If you politicians parading as pastors like Rev. Martey, JOY Mantey, late Rev. Asante Antwi, Rev. Emmanuel Asante, Otabil, etc they will definitely change what their evangelizers and forefathers taught them just to satisfy th ... read full comment
If you politicians parading as pastors like Rev. Martey, JOY Mantey, late Rev. Asante Antwi, Rev. Emmanuel Asante, Otabil, etc they will definitely change what their evangelizers and forefathers taught them just to satisfy their malicious ambitions. They are not genuine pastors but employees of the church to extort monies for the wives and children. Replacing the "holy Catholic Church" with the Holy universal church does not make any difference. They know very well that 'Catholic' is same as 'Universal'.
Donatus 1 year ago
It's the same. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church.
It's the same. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church.
Ike 1 year ago
My good friend you right on point. The meaning the word Catholic is the same as universal, so Roman Catholic,Anglo Catholic (Anglican) they could be call Presbyterian Catholic Church
My good friend you right on point. The meaning the word Catholic is the same as universal, so Roman Catholic,Anglo Catholic (Anglican) they could be call Presbyterian Catholic Church
WHERE FROM THIS ONE 1 year ago
They can decide to change that part of the CREED to "Holy Presbyterian Church", that is their cup of tea. Their Church has been turned into a wing of NPP by their leaders so they should concentrate there and leave THE HOLY CA ... read full comment
They can decide to change that part of the CREED to "Holy Presbyterian Church", that is their cup of tea. Their Church has been turned into a wing of NPP by their leaders so they should concentrate there and leave THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH alone
Kobby 1 year ago
Thank you "WHERE FROM THIS ONE " THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THEIR FAILI NG NPP
Thank you "WHERE FROM THIS ONE " THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THEIR FAILI NG NPP
Donkomi 1 year ago
I don't think it will change anything bcos PCG has professed the Apostles Creed word by word from the beginning of the church till this time so why now ? Will Presbyterians miss heaven if they continue to profess 'Holy Cathol ... read full comment
I don't think it will change anything bcos PCG has professed the Apostles Creed word by word from the beginning of the church till this time so why now ? Will Presbyterians miss heaven if they continue to profess 'Holy Catholic Church' ? PCG came to meet the Apostles Creed and those who established the church found it necessary to say the Creed so what has gone wrong ? I find it a bit funny because replacing 'Holy Catholic Church' with 'Holy Universal Church' is neither here nor there. The word Catholic is derived from a Greek word meaning universal so did you go or did you come ?
Adom 1 year ago
Thank you Donkomi. Does it mean that those presbyterian who died professing Holy Catholic church will not go to heaven? This hatred for the Catholic Church happened over the centuries but the church endured as Bishop Dag Hewa ... read full comment
Thank you Donkomi. Does it mean that those presbyterian who died professing Holy Catholic church will not go to heaven? This hatred for the Catholic Church happened over the centuries but the church endured as Bishop Dag Heward Mills, acknowledged sometimes back.
Ghanaboy, Dunkirk. Scotland. 1 year ago
The Presby Church is in self denial. You are an off-shoot of ƒhe Catholic Church, like it or hate it.
The Presby Church is in self denial. You are an off-shoot of ƒhe Catholic Church, like it or hate it.
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Mese Hmm 1 year ago
“The Apostles Creed” is an English expression. In the English Language, Catholic is synonymous with Universal.
In the Akan Language, which I am familiar with, the same phenomenon is expressed as “Asomafo Gyedi”. And ... read full comment
“The Apostles Creed” is an English expression. In the English Language, Catholic is synonymous with Universal.
In the Akan Language, which I am familiar with, the same phenomenon is expressed as “Asomafo Gyedi”. And the translation of “Holy Catholic Church” is “Asɔre Krokron a ԑwɔ Mbeae Nyinaa”. That is how my native mums and dads say it Sunday after Sunday. I trust it is the same with other local congregations.
If the Top Presbyters want to protect the civility of their church, let them teach their congregations to say the vernacular version of the creed and there would be no confusion. The Presby Church of Ghana failed to educate their congregation well to understand the meaning of the words used in the creed, and that is the cause of this unnecessary edict. I suppose the Ghana Presby Church is going to advise Christians in the English world to change Catholic to Universal. Otherwise, they should know that synod have wasted their time on this issue for no good reason!
TrueTrue 1 year ago
If to them Catholic in Holy Catholic Church refers to the Roman Catholic Church denomination ambiguously, then does Universal in Holy Universal Church refer to Universal Church of the Kingdom of God or New Hope Universal Chur ... read full comment
If to them Catholic in Holy Catholic Church refers to the Roman Catholic Church denomination ambiguously, then does Universal in Holy Universal Church refer to Universal Church of the Kingdom of God or New Hope Universal Church or all the other denominations with Universal as part of their name?
They could use just five minutes to explain the history and etymology of the word Catholic/catholic to the congregants instead of creating another ambiguity.
Ohene, Langley Virginia 1 year ago
God Satan and from Adam and eve to your stupid your stupid Jesus Christ never existed those two stupid religions Islam and Christianity was brought to Africa by Europeans and Arab through those useless books called Bible and ... read full comment
God Satan and from Adam and eve to your stupid your stupid Jesus Christ never existed those two stupid religions Islam and Christianity was brought to Africa by Europeans and Arab through those useless books called Bible and Quran..fools
Kobby 1 year ago
OHENE YOUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION WAS BASED ON THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. FOOL IF YOU DON'T KKOW ASK.
OHENE YOUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION WAS BASED ON THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. FOOL IF YOU DON'T KKOW ASK.
Jack Toronto 1 year ago
Hey, who is that Ohene? .If you do not know anything it doesn't mean it is not true. Give your heart to Christ
Hey, who is that Ohene? .If you do not know anything it doesn't mean it is not true. Give your heart to Christ
Girl 1 year ago
Both words mean same
Both words mean same
Kobby 1 year ago
Apostles creed has been prayed since 325. Why change it now. CATHOLIC SAME AS UNIVERSAL
Apostles creed has been prayed since 325. Why change it now. CATHOLIC SAME AS UNIVERSAL
Man 1 year ago
Little minds, please research into the theology of Catholic before removing it from your creed. Any way, do you really have any creed? You all copied from the Catholic/Orthodox Church but are not humble to acknowledge this f ... read full comment
Little minds, please research into the theology of Catholic before removing it from your creed. Any way, do you really have any creed? You all copied from the Catholic/Orthodox Church but are not humble to acknowledge this fact. How old is your denomination? How old if Christianity? Admit that without Catholic/Orthodox Church there is no ChristianIty! This is a basic fact all should know.
Tosh 1 year ago
Why would they want to recite it anyway. After all Martin Luther professed to " Scripture Alone". The Apostles creed unlike Our Lord's prayer is not in scripture, but was handed down from the early church through apostolic su ... read full comment
Why would they want to recite it anyway. After all Martin Luther professed to " Scripture Alone". The Apostles creed unlike Our Lord's prayer is not in scripture, but was handed down from the early church through apostolic succession, by Holy Oral Tradition, which Protestants don't believe in.
Believer 1 year ago
Thank you Tosh. There are no instructions in the Bible encouraging believers to be reciting creeds. The Bible instructs believers to assemble, study the Bible, pray and preach the message of salvation which is in Christ alone ... read full comment
Thank you Tosh. There are no instructions in the Bible encouraging believers to be reciting creeds. The Bible instructs believers to assemble, study the Bible, pray and preach the message of salvation which is in Christ alone. If some people decide to be reciting creeds there is no problem. Even Jesus did not teach His disciples to be reciting the so called Lord's Prayer like parrots. Study the Bible very well and you will understand.
Alhaji Clifford Y 1 year ago
To avoid the confusion ,thus their membership should be directed not to recite the apostle Creed period. But to restore to universal insead of catholic is problematic .
To avoid the confusion ,thus their membership should be directed not to recite the apostle Creed period. But to restore to universal insead of catholic is problematic .
Apostle Onyinah 1 year ago
Why not Holy Bawumia Church
Why not Holy Bawumia Church
Jah Guide 1 year ago
We want peace , from Russia to Ukraine , Israel to Palestine now sectarian war between Presbyterian and Catholic creed
Enough we want PEACE
We want peace , from Russia to Ukraine , Israel to Palestine now sectarian war between Presbyterian and Catholic creed
Enough we want PEACE
Akua 1 year ago
THERE IS ONLY ONE CHURCH THAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
THERE IS ONLY ONE CHURCH THAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Nati 1 year ago
People should know that:
Catholic means Roman Catholic Church
catholic means universal
So, the Presby Church is right if they have decided to scrap off Catholic Church to universal Church
Take note of how I'v ... read full comment
People should know that:
Catholic means Roman Catholic Church
catholic means universal
So, the Presby Church is right if they have decided to scrap off Catholic Church to universal Church
Take note of how I've used the capital C and small c
Benbella 1 year ago
Hmmmmm. What is the difference between the word Catholic and Universal? Hmmm. Truly, the bible says for lack of knowledge, .my people perish. What do you say about all these paganic teachings that were instituted by the Catho ... read full comment
Hmmmmm. What is the difference between the word Catholic and Universal? Hmmm. Truly, the bible says for lack of knowledge, .my people perish. What do you say about all these paganic teachings that were instituted by the Catholic Church? 1.Christmas 2. Easter 3.The teachings of the cross 4.The doctrine of trinity 5.The mother child cult 6. Changing the original sabbath day of worship from the 7th Day to the 1st Day 7. The use of the Rosary, etc. etc. etc. Hypocrisy. By their fruit, ye shall know them. Ebuborba......
Benbella 1 year ago
Who came out or invented the creed in the first place? Blind followers. Stupid stomach thinkers. Mark 7:7. Teaching the commandments of men and not the sovereign God (YAHWEH). NANIAMA
Who came out or invented the creed in the first place? Blind followers. Stupid stomach thinkers. Mark 7:7. Teaching the commandments of men and not the sovereign God (YAHWEH). NANIAMA
Kofi Ghanaba 1 year ago
How?All churches were born put of the Catholic Church
How?All churches were born put of the Catholic Church
KofSam 1 year ago
The apostles creed originated in the Catholic Church and other religious bodies adopted the creed for many centuries without any objection to the insertion of the word catholic in the creed . Maybe it is a way of acknowledgin ... read full comment
The apostles creed originated in the Catholic Church and other religious bodies adopted the creed for many centuries without any objection to the insertion of the word catholic in the creed . Maybe it is a way of acknowledging the Catholic Church as the mother of all the churches . So if the Presby church in Ghana has issues with the word catholic in the creed, they should just formulate their own creed in its entirety . Other churches world wide have no issues with the creed only the Presby church in Ghana. There are several economic and political issues affecting Ghanaians in the church which the officials have been silent about . Where is prof Mantey?
TomTom 1 year ago
The Creed was written by Catholic Bishops at the meeting in Nicea. If you think it's inappropriate, then stop reciting it- Period. Taking out The Holy Catholic Church and replacing it with Universal Church is like putting pla ... read full comment
The Creed was written by Catholic Bishops at the meeting in Nicea. If you think it's inappropriate, then stop reciting it- Period. Taking out The Holy Catholic Church and replacing it with Universal Church is like putting plaster on your tummy to cure stomach ache...
Abrewa 1 year ago
Long overdue. Have been advocating for this long ago.
The name Holy Universal Church is very apt.
Long overdue. Have been advocating for this long ago.
The name Holy Universal Church is very apt.
Che 1 year ago
All orthodox Christian Churches emanated from the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic = Universal. However, we tend to associate Catholic with the modern denomination called Roman Catholic which is the foundational Christian Chur ... read full comment
All orthodox Christian Churches emanated from the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic = Universal. However, we tend to associate Catholic with the modern denomination called Roman Catholic which is the foundational Christian Church. So if the Presbyterian Church does not want just a word in a creed written more than a thousand years, but like the whole creed, it is being disingenuous. This is unnecessary distraction.
Ex-Pope 1 year ago
This is more proof that organized religion is man-made.
This is more proof that organized religion is man-made.
UNIVERSAL IS THE SAME AS CATHOLIC. TAKE OR LEAVE IT
Emperor Constantine did his bit at the Council of Nicaea on 325AD. King James and Co also did theirs subsequently. Now it's the turn of the Presbyterian church to add theirs. The show goes on. Continue steaming in this religi ...
read full comment
You are very wise
Presbyterian Church of Ghana, why not draft, prepare or write your own creed
Kobby; thanks for your observation.
The Presbyterians posit that The Roman Universal Church is not good doctrinally. However, The Presbyterian Church uses and celebrates many of the fake celebrations instituted by the Roman ...
read full comment
The universal church is catholic, not Roman Catholic. Some members of the Presbyterian are not familiar with the usage of the word Catholic to refer to the universal church, so despite many explanations clarifications from th ...
read full comment
All said and done, the creed was created by the Roman Catholic Church; take it or leave it. It's all part of the imperialist agenda because the Roman Empire was never conquered but gradually metamorphosed into the Roman Catho ...
read full comment
Oyiwa we are enjoying the end times ..........
Very through And important. I've always wondered why non Catholic churches repeated that phrase... if skills be the THE HOLY CHURCH
Very true
Our belieF should be in the "CHURCH OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST", whose true congregants are found among various denominations.
Not all churches use the "Holy Catholic church" in the Apostles Creed. The Lutheran Church for instance use "The Holy Christian Church" whilst most churches use as earlier stated
The Church is ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC. The Presby Church should be humble to hold on to what has been proclaimed by APOSTLES for over 2000 years
The apostles used the English word, catholic? They were not English speaking? Catholic = universal.
What about the Holy Christian Church?
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If you politicians parading as pastors like Rev. Martey, JOY Mantey, late Rev. Asante Antwi, Rev. Emmanuel Asante, Otabil, etc they will definitely change what their evangelizers and forefathers taught them just to satisfy th ...
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It's the same. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church.
My good friend you right on point. The meaning the word Catholic is the same as universal, so Roman Catholic,Anglo Catholic (Anglican) they could be call Presbyterian Catholic Church
They can decide to change that part of the CREED to "Holy Presbyterian Church", that is their cup of tea. Their Church has been turned into a wing of NPP by their leaders so they should concentrate there and leave THE HOLY CA ...
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Thank you "WHERE FROM THIS ONE " THEY SHOULD FOLLOW THEIR FAILI NG NPP
I don't think it will change anything bcos PCG has professed the Apostles Creed word by word from the beginning of the church till this time so why now ? Will Presbyterians miss heaven if they continue to profess 'Holy Cathol ...
read full comment
Thank you Donkomi. Does it mean that those presbyterian who died professing Holy Catholic church will not go to heaven? This hatred for the Catholic Church happened over the centuries but the church endured as Bishop Dag Hewa ...
read full comment
The Presby Church is in self denial. You are an off-shoot of ƒhe Catholic Church, like it or hate it.
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“The Apostles Creed” is an English expression. In the English Language, Catholic is synonymous with Universal.
In the Akan Language, which I am familiar with, the same phenomenon is expressed as “Asomafo Gyedi”. And ...
read full comment
If to them Catholic in Holy Catholic Church refers to the Roman Catholic Church denomination ambiguously, then does Universal in Holy Universal Church refer to Universal Church of the Kingdom of God or New Hope Universal Chur ...
read full comment
God Satan and from Adam and eve to your stupid your stupid Jesus Christ never existed those two stupid religions Islam and Christianity was brought to Africa by Europeans and Arab through those useless books called Bible and ...
read full comment
OHENE YOUR AMERICAN CONSTITUTION WAS BASED ON THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. FOOL IF YOU DON'T KKOW ASK.
Hey, who is that Ohene? .If you do not know anything it doesn't mean it is not true. Give your heart to Christ
Both words mean same
Apostles creed has been prayed since 325. Why change it now. CATHOLIC SAME AS UNIVERSAL
Little minds, please research into the theology of Catholic before removing it from your creed. Any way, do you really have any creed? You all copied from the Catholic/Orthodox Church but are not humble to acknowledge this f ...
read full comment
Why would they want to recite it anyway. After all Martin Luther professed to " Scripture Alone". The Apostles creed unlike Our Lord's prayer is not in scripture, but was handed down from the early church through apostolic su ...
read full comment
Thank you Tosh. There are no instructions in the Bible encouraging believers to be reciting creeds. The Bible instructs believers to assemble, study the Bible, pray and preach the message of salvation which is in Christ alone ...
read full comment
To avoid the confusion ,thus their membership should be directed not to recite the apostle Creed period. But to restore to universal insead of catholic is problematic .
Why not Holy Bawumia Church
We want peace , from Russia to Ukraine , Israel to Palestine now sectarian war between Presbyterian and Catholic creed
Enough we want PEACE
THERE IS ONLY ONE CHURCH THAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
People should know that:
Catholic means Roman Catholic Church
catholic means universal
So, the Presby Church is right if they have decided to scrap off Catholic Church to universal Church
Take note of how I'v ...
read full comment
Hmmmmm. What is the difference between the word Catholic and Universal? Hmmm. Truly, the bible says for lack of knowledge, .my people perish. What do you say about all these paganic teachings that were instituted by the Catho ...
read full comment
Who came out or invented the creed in the first place? Blind followers. Stupid stomach thinkers. Mark 7:7. Teaching the commandments of men and not the sovereign God (YAHWEH). NANIAMA
How?All churches were born put of the Catholic Church
The apostles creed originated in the Catholic Church and other religious bodies adopted the creed for many centuries without any objection to the insertion of the word catholic in the creed . Maybe it is a way of acknowledgin ...
read full comment
The Creed was written by Catholic Bishops at the meeting in Nicea. If you think it's inappropriate, then stop reciting it- Period. Taking out The Holy Catholic Church and replacing it with Universal Church is like putting pla ...
read full comment
Long overdue. Have been advocating for this long ago.
The name Holy Universal Church is very apt.
All orthodox Christian Churches emanated from the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic = Universal. However, we tend to associate Catholic with the modern denomination called Roman Catholic which is the foundational Christian Chur ...
read full comment
This is more proof that organized religion is man-made.